Updated November 22, 2021 by Ernie
Jonathan Joestar isn’t most peoples favorite Jojo but he still deserves respect as the man that started off the Joestar family’s bizarre adventures. Jonathan was able to best Dio, a vampire with supernatural powers, an insane intellect and an army of undead servants by his side, with only his determination, will and magic breathing.
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Unfortunately, we didn’t get to see Jonathan a whole lot in the series as he only has 9 episodes in the whole series and after part 3 is barely ever mentioned.
But is that really the case? Fans speculate that the original Jojo only took a break for one part to then return in Part 3, reincarnated as his great-great-grandson Jotaro’s stand, Star Platinum.
Is This Possible?
The first thing that should be figured out is if this could possibly even happen. While it does sound a little far fetched, let’s just remember that we are talking about a world that has Vampires, ancient Pillar Men, magic breathing, Stands, Arrows that make stands. at least two different afterlives, ghosts and maybe aliens, so reincarnation is definitely not too out there. So what’s the evidence for this Theory
Visual Similarities
Let’s start off with the most obvious, their appearances.
We can see a few similarities right off the bat. They both have tall, muscular builds, both have gloves with studs on them, both have a blueish purple colour scheme to them. Jonathan even wore shoulder pads for a time, like Star Platinum.
If Jonathan is reincarnated in Star Platinum, it would explain some of the design of the stand, being that it was inspired by the first Jojo, just a bit more ornate.
Fighting Style
This one is another point in the argument for Jonathan Joestar’s reincarnation. Jojo and Star Platinum have a very similar fighting style, that mainly being punching a lot. Jonathan Joestar is also the first Jojo to ever use the series’ iconic ORA battle cry, so maybe that is why Star Platinum yells it when he is attacking.
Coincidence? I think not!
Story Hints
There are also some things we can infer from the story that might suggest that Jonathan Joestar is Star Platinum are hints that we get throughout the story.
This is one piece of evidence that most proponents of this theory point to. They say that when Dio awakened from the depths of the Ocean and gained his stand, Jonathan’s soul took notice and decided to help by becoming the Stand of the descendant who was most physically capable of defeating Dio.
This was Jotaro, as Joseph was too old to handle the power, even with his Hamon training and Josuke was too young at the time. Holly was overlooked because as we can see, she is too weak to handle having a stand of her own, so Jonathan skipped her in order to try to save her, even if she developed a stand later.
Jotaro being chosen as the stand user to inherit Star Platinum can also explain why Jotaro’s stand is so different from his family members. Both Joseph and Holly have flower-like stands, while Jotaro’s is humanoid and really has no flower aspects going on in its design.
This might be because instead of Jotaro’s stand just being a physical incarnation of his life energy and fighting spirit, but is also the soul of Jonathan Joestar Reincarnated to finish Dio off, once and for all.
There could also be another hint in that Jotaro first thought of Star Platinum as an “Evil Spirit” and Jonathan Said that his ghost would haunt Dio, possibly foreshadowing his spectral return as a stand.
Counter Arguments
As much as I personally like to believe this theory, there are a few counter-arguments to the theory that deserve to mentioned.
First off, while multiple afterlives have been confirmed in JJBA, there’s no proof of reincarnation being a thing. Stands are also not actual spirits officially and are supposed to just be embodiments of a stand users will power. I would counter this counter-argument by saying that stands have had their own personalities in the past, like with Cheap Trick, who seemed to be fully sentient.
One could also argue that Jonathan would not reincarnate as Jotaro’s stand, as the two have very different personalities. Jonathan is a paragon of virtue and the ultimate gentleman, while Jotaro is rude and a textbook punk. Star Platinum also acts in a very un-Jonathan like way, enjoying beating people up and punching a woman who was seemingly in distress.
This could be because Star Platinum is Jotaro’s stand and must act according to Jotaro’s will and Jonathan while reincarnating, was only able to pass on his strength and not his consciousness.
There is also no way to explain with this theory why Star Platinum can stop time other than Jonathan may have an effect because The World, the Stand Dio has while using Jonathan’s body, can also stop time.
What do you think of this theory? is Star Platinum the reincarnation of Jonathan Joestar, if you like this theory and want to tell us what you think, let us know in the comments!
it’s funny because i was thinking the other day how some characters from the past after they die reincarnate as stands
Bad theory
Tell me how it’s a bad theory then….see you have no proof you dimwit
I think this is going to be a great explanation in support of this theory. It was very clear as Dio continuously said about Jonathan that he is persistent and that “If you bleed him, he comes back stronger” (smthin’ like that) which states Jonathan’s adaptability. When Dio and Jonathan fought (when Dio kissed Erina) he actually beat the cr@p out of Dio eventhough It was very clear Dio always had the upper hand. Also notice the “ora ora” battle cry and its rage is very similar to that of Jonathan’s when he surpassed his limits
Yes! It’s crazy how “he comes back stronger” theory makes sense. I guess we’ll just have to wait for Araki to say something.
Not only did Jonathan say he would haunt dio showing intent, Zeppili taught him to pass on his life force and knowledge of how to do this. If Joseph technically had hermit purple which he activated to guess what people were saying, but accessed through sendo before he obtained his stand officially and could see it; then Johnathan probably used the Passion on The Knight Bluford who gave him the Duel nature sword of luck/pluck. This close connection to the night corrupted by dio but then redeemed shows why the world looks like Johnathan dressed like dio (luck) and dressed like Bluford (pluck). This to me implies somewhat that crazy diamond might be Zeppoli as he was powerful at manipulating life and punching things.
DIO mentioned that he gained stand after taking over Johnathan’s body. Star Platinum and The world has the same power, only appearance. The Star Platinum might be Johnathan and The World might be the stand that comes from Johnathan’s body.
So that means The World is Johnathan’s real stand and not dio’s? 🤔
Well, a stand is the embodiment of mind and soul, its just jotaros body, so id say no
i so think it wouls be jonathan the first cuss he would have a big roll and they he acts is bcs he is recarnated as a stand his atitude changed
Still a mystery 😲
Kira lived on as a spirit after part 4 in Dead Man’s questions so it wouldn’t be a stretch to say Johnathan didn’t do the same
Star platinum has same powers with Jonathan’s body’s stand za warudo(the world) and star platinum’s being reincarnation of Jonathan could be the reason star platinum is almost same with za warudo
yo jonathan has a stand and its seen in dios first appearance in part 3. it doesnt have a name but its a less messy version of purple hermit, as it doesnt destroy the camera.
Jonathan’s stand (that’s like Hermit Purple) has a name and is called [The Passion] I think
This is thoroughly believable and now my headcanon.
On his forehead he wears something similar to what that English knight that Jonathan fought
When I rewatched jojo I thought of that too, the art style is slightly different but the hair and headband seem kind of similar. I agree though that it could be the strength of Johnathan Joestar and something to do with Bruford and Zeppoli.
I thought the same, although the art style is different the hair and headband seem similar, however I do agree that it is possible that star platinum is Johnathan Joestar’s should and has something to do with Zeppeli and Bruford.
YES! JoJo is full of plot twists. If this theory is true, it should’ve started in Jonathan and Zeppeli Era
i do believe john is star plat it would make sense
tbh i really do think Jonathon got reincarnated as Star Platinum almost everything about them is the same
i wanna talk to araki about this man
I think Jonathan is the reincarnation of star platinum
same
this is my fave theory of all time as Jonathan is my fav joestar and i was sad when he died 🙂
technically he is both alive and dead, but not a ghost. he did die in p1, yes, but in part 3 DIO’s first appearance he uses jonathans stand (https://jojowiki.com/List_of_Unnamed_Stands#Joestar_Stand)
as we have seen, a stand dies when the user dies unless in certain circumstances (like its a bound stand or its a requiem with the ability to do that like polnareff’s silver chariot)
maybe..maybe..
You forget to mention that the STAR FINGER could be a parallel to ZOOM PUNCH that Jonathan and Will A Zeppeli used in Phantom Blood. Also if you look to Star Platinum first appearance in the manga he definetly looks a lot more like Jonathan than the redraw version, (but with a DIO looking face).
I belive that what inspired Araki to create Star Platinum’s appearance was a kind of a fusion between Jonathan and Baoh, his first succefull manga, since Baoh also have a blueish purple skin, long hair, gloves with studs and a scarf.
i believe the design one but not the whole theory. baoh is a big inspiration for many jojo characters to this day, so its believable they look similar because their designs are based on the same guy.
an example of baohs design used in jojo is Kars’ blades, baoh has them too, and i believe they retract (i haven’t read baoh)
and to drive in that araki is thinking of baoh when making these and not randomly thinking it looks good, in the manga (i believe) jotaro is reading baoh (this might be anime, one was just shounen jump the other was baoh) but overall, this is a good reasoning to believe.
oh and against the theory (slightly more) jonathan is technically alive, as DIO has his stand, which is similar to hermit purple, and stands disappear when the user dies.
i beleive the design one but not the whole theory. baoh is a big inspiration for many jojo characters to this day, so its believable they look similar because their designs are based on the same guy.
an example of baohs design used in jojo is Kars’ blades, baoh has them too, and i believe they retract (i havent read baoh)
and to drive in that araki is thinking of baoh when making these and not randomly thinking it looks good, in the manga (i believe) jotaro is reading baoh (this might be anime, one was just shounen jump the other was baoh) but overall, this is a good reasoning to beleive.
oh and against the theory (slightly more) jonathan is technically alive, as DIO has his stand, which is similar to hermit purple, and stands disappear when the user dies.
(sorry if this is the second or third reply on this comment i forgot the name and email area, then it wouldn’t lemme say it when i redid it with those)
I think that Jotaro is the reincarnation of Jonathan and Star Platinum is Bruford
That is something I never thought about, cool idea!
YESSSS!!
I agree but the reason of the flower like stands doesn’t fit at all, josuke is also joseph’s son but he has an humanoid stand unlike holly and joseph